Honest, open-minded people only please...?

I work as a stripper in Spearmint Rhinos in the UK %26amp; I got annoyed with the manager because he insisted there didn't have to be anyone near the dancers during private dances upstairs - as there were cameras on them (although no one was watching them)...with the old, good manager there always had to be some sort of protection/bouncers upstairs in case the girls got in trouble...am I being stupid for wanting bouncers within calling distance upstairs?


Nothing happened *this* time %26amp; so the manager %26amp; my bf think I am over-reacting, but surely I should be able to feel safe in this sort of environment?


It's meant to be a classy gentlemens club, not some sleazy backdoor whorehouse ffs. Should I just shut up about it?

Honest, open-minded people only please...?
it's complicated enough to work there. i guess you just want some sense of securiity.
Reply:thats preatty deep i think you should worry
Reply:i think u should do a decent job and not one u r not comfortable with. trust me on this....a pure life is better than a stained one....
Reply:You have a right to feel safe and secure. Your request is reasonable and any manager who is concerned about the safety of his employees would have no trouble in providing an environment you feel secure in.





Find another place to work and dump your insensitive boyfriend as well.
Reply:You are correct to want extra protection. Who is the manager to say if in a flash the guy that grabs you doesn't stab you or some other type of violence? You should insist on having a security guard present for ALL private dances.
Reply:If you really want my honest opinion, I think that it is so sad that you have such a job. Why do such a thing? It only pays until they fire you because you are "too old" for their standards. What's going to happen next. Consider getting an education to have a better life in the future. I don't mean to be disrespectful but thats just what I think.
Reply:I can understand your worries, I would request a bouncer be in a door away or something. I mean, the customers might be upset if there is one in the room as it's supposed to be private, but your safety is certainly an issue.
Reply:Management have a duty of care to your health and SAFETY in a work environment (as do you to your own health %26amp; safety) - so a risk assessment of your health and safety MUST address risks identified. The Health %26amp; Safety Executive could advise you further - please don't let this one drop.
Reply:Nope.... stick to your guns.... you have every right to......


your establishment should have plenty of protection in lieu of your profession....it's the least they could do--if not, then they do not have any respect for their female employees. And that, my friend is SEXIST.
Reply:That seems reasonable to me. What matters is how you feel about the situation. If you feel uncomfortable, they should respect your concern. I'm sure you know more about it than anybody else does.
Reply:No you're not over-reacting at all. You have a right to feel safe within your working environment. :-)
Reply:I don't think you're being unreasonable. It's you at risk , not them!





I am surprised your bf lets you do this!!
Reply:not at all.








there should defiantly be some sort of protection.
Reply:I completely agree with your opinion. If I were in your position I would definitely want some sort of protection. You should feel safe and if you don't I would continue to speak up to your manager. AND, I think your boyfriend should want you to feel safe as well!
Reply:you have a right to have security nearby just in case.


ask the other girls how they all feel about it.


if they feel the same way you do..approach the manager %26amp; let him know...you want it the way it used to be originally.


you have every right to have security provided for you...


look at it this way..without the girls..the club wouldn't be making money.


good luck to you.
Reply:Whatever u do, some risks r there. I'm a civil engineer but my life is in all the time in risk as I've to work in close vicinity of fast trains. A small mistake and I'm gone. God saved me 10 times. I go for this risky jcontracts because my profit margin is more than 100%. I'm taking the risk as I want more money. Same is ur problem. U too want easy and fast buck. U have to take certain risks and ur safety is in ur hand. If someone bounces on u, u must know how to protect urself. Self defence is the best defence. U can take lessions in martial art and learn how to defend urself. That will the best course for u. U can kick off strongest man very easily as he won't expect any assault from u. Don't bother about ur physique. The kind of job u r doing, I hope u r in good shape,. Go to gym and tone up ur muscles.
Reply:You are a presious woman. You need all the safety you can get. These men are not nessisarilly GENTLEMEN. Men are really just as sleazy whether they are in a suit or in boxer shorts. I hope you get all the protection you deserve.


Is this the type of work you want or would like to do something else?





blessings and peace to you.
Reply:laws are laws and if you dont like them (they will enforce them to prevent getting shut down,) open up your own underground strip clubs.
Reply:Naw, you should feel safe no matter where you work. In your case I don't think it's unreasonable to at least have one bouncer up there when you're working. I mean drunk men can get out of hand.





Maybe you should go to another place that suits your needs.
Reply:no you shouldn't shut up about it. it's your body, and you deserve protection and the dignity you deserve. Don't give up. It's your right. If your manager wants your employment then he should at least return the favor with a paycheck and some necessary protection.


-bre
Reply:I would think having bouncers within ear-shot of your girls would be pretty much standard. I had a friend who once went off on a female stripper and ended up getting arrested (my ex boyfriend). No you are in the right. You need to gather some of the other girls and barge into his office demanding this.





I'm not judging you or trying to tell you how to live your life, however I would personally get into something more lucrative than stripping. Do you really want to spend your whole life pleasing perverts? I would take this as an oppritunity. Quit.
Reply:I would think that they would have someone watching for troublemakers all the time. A camera is not going to able to grab some creep that gets out of hand. No, I don't think you should give up on it. You have a valid argument for wanting to be safe. Good luck with it!
Reply:If I were you I'd descretely mention it to other girls working there (don't mention what the manager said or that you spoke to him about it- just express your worries) and see what their responses are. If the majority of you feel the same then you'll have a united front- you can go and talk to the manager about it again.





I think you're well within your rights to want someone nearby to help. Sometimes things get out of hand. I've only ever had one lapdance in my life, but I have to admit I was sitting there thinking 'do NOT touch - do NOT touch'. I'm no pervert or a groper, and I DIDN'T touch, but the situation of attractive girl dancing naked in close proximity + normal male instincts + social responsibility to behave = very peculiar / difficult situation.





Just be careful not to stir things up or people will think you're out to cause trouble.
Reply:girls are so much more fragile than guys.. i think you should tell them to shove it if they dont have your best intrests at heart.. and ps. if your boyfriend doesnt take your side when it comes to your safety and welfare.. then tell him to shove it too.. good luck hun
Reply:I thought that is what bouncers are hired to do...protect the girls!...you are not over reacting, they are. I shoudn't say this, but its only my personal opinion - do you think they might be 'selling' you out?!!...becareful %26amp; take care...not this time maybe next time, maybe this time they are just 'testing the water'....
Reply:It's important that you feel safe when your working in that kind of environment. if you don't feel comfortable in that kind of setting insist that you have them there or rethink a new job. even though it's prob good money your saftey is much more important and being happy.
Reply:no i would be concerned also...you have no idea what drunk horny guys are capable of doing to you ...expecially if no one is around you...guys are alot bigger and stronger...you dont want to be taken advantage of.
Reply:Nope.....you have every logical reason to have a bouncer within calling distance, if you can't come to a compromise with management on that, you should probably find a different club to work at, there's no telling when a patron may get out of hand, and it could be a serious threat to your well-being if you have no backup.....
Reply:your not over-reacting at all, they are clearly putting you in a vulnerable and possibly dangerous position. You have a right to expect that your safety is protected, why else does the club/manager make money from your work. maybe see if other dancers at the club agree with you, power in numbers and all that. and even if the club is suppose to be classy, that isn't any grantee about the character of the men in there, it shouldn't matter when your safety is concerned.
Reply:No way, if you don't feel safe then you should either keep on at them or just quit. Sure nothing's happened so far but what if it did. If some guy tries to hurt you or worse then its not going to matter how many times it 'didn't happen'.





Camera's are not enough, you should talk to some of the other girls and try to get there support, it would be hard to ignore if you all told the manager you had a problem with it.
Reply:It's difficult to say. Do any of the other girls see this as a problem? If so then get together and put your point across to the manager. If you all threaten to walk unless he changes things then he may see your point of view. I think you are right though - better safe than sorry! Best of luck to you.

elaine